Very interesting piece. I find it really odd how so many people want to be famous - on the surface maybe it looks appealing but the reality of people staring at you all the time and never really knowing if anyone is being sincere must be awful.
That is very sad with people you already know. No wonder so many celebrities become isolated and a bit odd if you have to live like that.
I can’t even stand in America how all the service staff are so fake nice all the time - I would much prefer someone being grumpy because they are having a bad day!
Famouses hang out with other famouses because they can be normal together. They don’t have to relate to themselves as an object like they do otherwise, so it’s relaxing.
Haha, great story. Yes, Covid made us repel anyone who came near! I remember wondering how we ever managed to walk past each other in the street before.
Mukbang is such a good analogy for fame! the number of people seeking internet fame seems to be growing as it’s more attainable - so many kids want to be influencers now, rather than develop an actual skill (singing, acting etc).
Whenever I have looked at very famous people (Michael Jackson, Britney spring to mind) they appeared to me like an animal covered in leeches sucking them dry, so awful.
Yes! Everyone- EVERYONE- tries to get a piece of them. Their life becomes a lot of saying “no”... if you’re lucky, you’ll have an agent or a manager who does that for you... but if your agent wants a piece of you, too, you’re fucked...
This is a point very well made. When you start getting the dopamine hits from followers it must be very hard to ensure you don't chase. As an example seeing what's happened to James Lindsay is why I've got so much respect for the wonderful Helen Pluckrose. Sticking admirably to her principles seems to have taken a toll on her mentally and professionally, but the rabbit hole he's gone down ultimately seems a million times less healthy for him, and a million times worse for society.
Oh gosh, yes. James Lindsay's another one who's lost his mind online. Such a shame... I hope he can find his way out of it. The problem is that the people who've lost their minds online are 100% that THEY ARE RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG. And - in my own personal experience - time and time again they will choose to listen to their 'fans' who are praising them rather than their real world friends who might be saying to them 'Hey, you are behaving a bit... unusually. You should probably take a step back from this.' I have discussed staging an intervention for someone I know a couple times. We never did it because, in the end, they refused to even 'step in the door' because they probably suspected something was up. 🤷🏻♀️
Very interesting piece. I find it really odd how so many people want to be famous - on the surface maybe it looks appealing but the reality of people staring at you all the time and never really knowing if anyone is being sincere must be awful.
Oh yes. If you believe everyone is sincere- even people you’ve known for years- then you will quickly be in trouble. Fame brings sharks...
That is very sad with people you already know. No wonder so many celebrities become isolated and a bit odd if you have to live like that.
I can’t even stand in America how all the service staff are so fake nice all the time - I would much prefer someone being grumpy because they are having a bad day!
Famouses hang out with other famouses because they can be normal together. They don’t have to relate to themselves as an object like they do otherwise, so it’s relaxing.
Haha, great story. Yes, Covid made us repel anyone who came near! I remember wondering how we ever managed to walk past each other in the street before.
Mukbang is such a good analogy for fame! the number of people seeking internet fame seems to be growing as it’s more attainable - so many kids want to be influencers now, rather than develop an actual skill (singing, acting etc).
Whenever I have looked at very famous people (Michael Jackson, Britney spring to mind) they appeared to me like an animal covered in leeches sucking them dry, so awful.
Yes! Everyone- EVERYONE- tries to get a piece of them. Their life becomes a lot of saying “no”... if you’re lucky, you’ll have an agent or a manager who does that for you... but if your agent wants a piece of you, too, you’re fucked...
And even worse: your family wants a piece of you...
Such a horror show! Wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. Family would be the worst...MJ & Britney def suffered from this. 😮💨
This is a point very well made. When you start getting the dopamine hits from followers it must be very hard to ensure you don't chase. As an example seeing what's happened to James Lindsay is why I've got so much respect for the wonderful Helen Pluckrose. Sticking admirably to her principles seems to have taken a toll on her mentally and professionally, but the rabbit hole he's gone down ultimately seems a million times less healthy for him, and a million times worse for society.
Oh gosh, yes. James Lindsay's another one who's lost his mind online. Such a shame... I hope he can find his way out of it. The problem is that the people who've lost their minds online are 100% that THEY ARE RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG. And - in my own personal experience - time and time again they will choose to listen to their 'fans' who are praising them rather than their real world friends who might be saying to them 'Hey, you are behaving a bit... unusually. You should probably take a step back from this.' I have discussed staging an intervention for someone I know a couple times. We never did it because, in the end, they refused to even 'step in the door' because they probably suspected something was up. 🤷🏻♀️